Lifestyle Magazine, May 1993
In the town of Przywidz the sign over one of the display cubicles informs us that the Center for the Elevation of Human Psychic Contentment is to be found here. The Center is run by Wanda Pratnicka, a middle-aged woman wearing a short skirt. Mrs Pratnicka is an exorcist.
What is it that you do?
I cleanse people of ghosts since they are a great hindrance.
How do ghosts get into a person?
People come into the world with a natural defense against ghosts. Later, however, many people lose this defense, e.g. because they were beaten in their childhood. Other miserable life experiences also have an impact on the loss of this natural defense. Another factor can be anesthetics, loss of consciousness, alcoholic stupor, state after drugs ingestion - all of these are moments where a person isn't fully conscious. Those are the moments when ghosts most often enter. They try to get inside everyone, but they have no chances where there is a barrier. A third conducive situation for them comes with funerals. When a person is very vulnerable with his or her pain, grieving so much then they open themselves up and then they can bring one or more ghosts with them from the cemetery.
More than one?
It can happen that a person has one ghost, a couple of ghosts, but sometimes even several hundred. And more, even - often one ghost may not know about other ghosts.
What is a ghost?
After death, a person will leave his or her body like a skirt in the earth. The rest is a ghost. After death, a person passes through "to the other side". If, however, someone dies a sudden death, or when under the influence of alcohol, or didn't have any idea what they are going to do after death - all of these remain in the astral. And in order to be able to continue functioning, they have to find a human being and enter into them. They prey on gatherings - e.g. in churches or hospitals. And then they take a bit of every person there. But when they find a person open to them, then they enter them.
How can you recognize that a ghost has entered your client?
People stay the same after their death as they were in their lives. In life, people can be good or evil. And when a ghost enters the person's character will change. If a good person is entered by a good ghost there will be no radical change. If someone died because of an illness then the ghost will automatically donate the possessed person the same illness it died of. Evil ghosts cause noticeable changes in character. And then it's easier to realize that they are possessed, and those around them also notice it straight away. People with very variable moods, those who suddenly start to drink alcohol, criminals are more often than not possessed people.
How long does an exorcism last?
That depends. If a ghost is easy and has no special aim in being in someone then one session will suffice. But if it has chosen a person in order to stay inside them for ever then it's terribly hard. Sometimes, cleansing takes weeks or even as long as months.
Does it depend on the spells?
No, it's based on the mind. I am a clairvoyant and I see the ghost. By the power of my energy it's as if I carry the ghost in a cradle to "the other side". The person freed from the ghost has a sense of relief, and those around him can see an improvement.
What other symptoms are there of possession?
An extreme symptom are suicide attempts. Nearly every murderous ghost will force a person to commit suicide. And every suicide is possessed. For after all, a human beings come to this world in order to live. Furthermore - nearly all mental illnesses are caused by possession. Or such situations as a person taking a decision one day and then a different one the next day. Because one of those decision was made by the ghost! Or why does someone forget where they put their keys? Because it wasn't the person who left them somewhere, but the ghost.
Do you also heal people of physical ailments?
When I see that they're caused by the penetration of a ghost. A person with that kind of illness who comes to me regains their health. Because it wasn't that person's illness, it was the ghost's.
Why don't doctors make use of your abilities?
Doctors do come to me, in secret, and say: "Please cleanse me or cleanse someone close to me" (because I drive away ghosts remotely as well - distance means nothing to a ghost). But I can't go into hospitals, particularly not psychiatric ones, because then all the psychiatrists would have no work if I started cleansing all their patients. I don't want to suggest that I'm important, but psychiatric doctors should look more widely at the phenomenon of mental illnesses.
I read in your publicity flyer that you also deal with slimming.
This isn't a slimming program. Let me explain - a person who is possessed has so much fear in themselves that they eat constantly to suppress the fear. As soon as the ghosts are led away then the person will automatically lose weight themselves.
During our interview the grateful daughter of a person freed of illness through exorcism brings Mrs Pratnicka a basket of victuals.
Do you have many clients coming to you?
But aren't you encroaching on the Church's territory?
Of course there should priest-exorcists but looking for them would be fruitless.
Author: Grazyna Ziomkowska